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Help with Shield/Devotion crusader

Postby totti10 » 2014-09-14 14:23 (Sunday)

Hello. First of all, let me tell you that this is the first crusader I make and that I'm aware that hybrid builds don't excel on anything and I'm ok with that, I just want a crusader who I can have fun with in all scenarios once I get my swordman to job lvl 50.

This is the build idea I'm going for:

(Base stats)
STR: 84
VIT: 90
AGI: 14
INT: 21
DEX: 50
LUK: 1

I distributed the last points in AGI and INT because I didn't want to leave any status points without use. Any suggestion is welcomed.

Skills:

Swordman
Sword Mastery 0
Two-Handed Sword Mastery 0
Increase Recuperative Power 10
Bash 10
Provoke 10
Magnum Break 10
Endure 9

Crusader
Cure 0
Spear Mastery 0
Riding 0
Cavalry Mastery 0
Divine Protection 0
Demon Bane 0
Heal 0
Providence 0
Spear Quicken 0
Faith 10
Auto Guard 6
Shield Charge 5
Shield Boomerang 5
Reflect Shield 7
Holy Cross 7
Grand Cross 4
Devotion 3
Defender 2

Now...I have some doubts:

1) Riding and Calvary Mastery: Is it necessary to have these two skills? Because I think 84 STR is plenty to carry pots so I don't know if the riding movement speed bonus is kinda big deal.
2) Sword , Two-Handed Sword and Spear masteries, Divine Protection, Demon Bane: I left them out of the picture because I think they're pretty much useless in pre-renewal, I don't know if that's ok.
3) Cure and heal: I don't think I would be needing these for my build since my INT sucks.
4) Providence:Is it ok for me to leave this one out?
5) Devotion: I believe Devotion at 3 IMO is suitable for this build because I won't have that much HP to be able to protect 5 chars and like I said this sader is not mainly for devotion.

Thank you for taking the time to read all this cry for help, thank you for answering in advance and excuse me if I made any mistakes with the skill names :mrgreen:
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Re: Help with Shield/Devotion crusader

Postby Mathy » 2014-09-15 01:56 (Monday)

Max Endure over Magnum Break.
Show me the final status build (with bonus/equipment points) factored in.
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Re: Help with Shield/Devotion crusader

Postby totti10 » 2014-09-15 02:42 (Monday)

STR 84+17
INT 21+16
AGI 14+14
DEX 50+13
VIT 90+7
LUK 1+5

HP: 14168
SP: 650

This is with job bonuses, Blessing and Increase AGI. I don't know about crusader gear, I haven't thought much about it D:
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Re: Help with Shield/Devotion crusader

Postby Mathy » 2014-09-15 02:47 (Monday)

Drop a point in STR so it's in a multiple of 10.
Put 3 points into Vit for stun immunity.
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Re: Help with Shield/Devotion crusader

Postby totti10 » 2014-09-15 02:52 (Monday)

Yeah, I didn't notice that. Thank you for your insight. (/gawi)
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Re: Help with Shield/Devotion crusader

Postby Mordekaiser » 2014-09-16 06:51 (Tuesday)

Put 3 points into Vit for stun immunity.


You could if you want. But honestly I have 97 total on my knight. It won't bother you.
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Re: Help with Shield/Devotion crusader

Postby totti10 » 2014-09-16 14:10 (Tuesday)

Mordekaiser wrote:
Put 3 points into Vit for stun immunity.


You could if you want. But honestly I have 97 total on my knight. It won't bother you.


So even if I don't have 100 VIT I would still have good stun resistence? 100 VIT makes me completely inmune?
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Re: Help with Shield/Devotion crusader

Postby Mathy » 2014-09-16 15:57 (Tuesday)

totti10 wrote:
Mordekaiser wrote:
Put 3 points into Vit for stun immunity.


You could if you want. But honestly I have 97 total on my knight. It won't bother you.


So even if I don't have 100 VIT I would still have good stun resistence? 100 VIT makes me completely inmune?


A tad less than 100 is acceptable, yes, but how good it is is relative.
100 vit is immunity. Anything over that is likely a waste of points.
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Re: Help with Shield/Devotion crusader

Postby HolyBabe » 2014-09-16 20:09 (Tuesday)

dunno bout skills here in your build...

holycross 7? prolly a skillmistake / or typo from your side i guess ^^

im also not a fan of skill"mixes"
Defender 2
Autoguard 6
Reflect 7

defender: i think the movement speed reduce isnt worth the "low" reduce at lvl 2. better max it, or safe the points.

it HIGHLY depends on what your plans are... pvm or woe/pvp

i used to play a StrShield crusader (and a Str/Shield Baby Crusader *-* ) on various PreTrans servers too
its rly fun to play in pvp or even in BG
you can troll kill your enemys rly hard (/heh)

but my build didnt had devo inside. it was more like:

http://irowiki.org/~himeyasha/skill4/cr ... FoxGAbn3cL

mainly u were status ShieldBoom/shieldcharge ur enemys and do dmg with HolyCross spamming afterwards if it gets to closer range.
(just to give u another build advise that can be rly fun)
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Re: Help with Shield/Devotion crusader

Postby totti10 » 2014-09-16 23:16 (Tuesday)

HolyBabe wrote:dunno bout skills here in your build...

holycross 7? prolly a skillmistake / or typo from your side i guess ^^

im also not a fan of skill"mixes"
Defender 2
Autoguard 6
Reflect 7

defender: i think the movement speed reduce isnt worth the "low" reduce at lvl 2. better max it, or safe the points.

it HIGHLY depends on what your plans are... pvm or woe/pvp  

i used to play a   StrShield crusader (and a Str/Shield Baby Crusader *-* )  on various PreTrans servers too
its rly fun to play in pvp or even in BG
you can troll kill your enemys rly hard (/heh)

but my build didnt had devo inside. it was more like:

http://irowiki.org/~himeyasha/skill4/cr ... FoxGAbn3cL

mainly u were status ShieldBoom/shieldcharge ur enemys and do dmg with HolyCross spamming afterwards if it gets to closer range.
(just to give u another build advise that can be rly fun)


Hmm... your input and your build kinda helped me out to save some skill points. Thanks.
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