Knife or Mace?

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Knife or Mace

Knife
5
50%
Mace
3
30%
Other
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20%
 
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Knife or Mace?

Postby Ergroilnin » October 13th, 2017, 12:11 pm

So I am slowly starting to gear up my pure devo crus for WoE and I have a dilemma about choosing the overall best weapon.

I will be making both quad dex and quad vital weapons to use depending on the situation. The dilemma however as suggested in the name of the thread is... Do I make them in mace or knife? These weapons will be purely for this character so I do not care about overall versatility.

As far as I know (and I will be happy about pointing out the things I overlooked too)

Mace
Pros:
Unbreakable (ofc. still strippable though)
Higher ASPD with Adrenaline Rush

Cons:
Weight of 80
Slower ASPD without Adrenaline Rush

Knife
Pros:
Higher ASPD (slightly faster devo recast delay in good strings, also faster for spamming Bash for stunnin wizzies etc.)
Weight of only 40 (so 40 less than mace = 8 CWPs)

Cons:
Breakable AND strippable

So... Knowing these facts, what would be your personal choice? I am totally 50/50 on these choices so I really do not know.

Thanks for your insight
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Re: Knife or Mace?

Postby Mathy » October 13th, 2017, 3:54 pm

Seems to me that you are mostly down to:
  • Do you have Adrenaline Rush often?
  • Do you have FCP often?

Since it's for WoE you'll probably get FCP, so the issue of breakability isn't very relevant. Does your guild have a Battlesmith?
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Re: Knife or Mace?

Postby Ergroilnin » October 13th, 2017, 7:20 pm

Well that is certainly important question and will probably decide the outcome... And since at this very moment I am guildless, I suppose I will just prepare the eight cards and go with what the guild rolls with.
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Re: Knife or Mace?

Postby Franky4Fingers » October 14th, 2017, 5:51 am

just go knife, more reliable overall
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Re: Knife or Mace?

Postby Jake » October 14th, 2017, 3:35 pm

I know too little about crusaders so I'm not going to vote. Have you considered unarmed? It is usually fast enough to interrupt safety wall, or to remove it. It might also help the after cast delay of devotion, but that needs testing.
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Re: Knife or Mace?

Postby andis » October 14th, 2017, 8:07 pm

TANJA????? IS THAT YOU??? QQ ANDY HERE
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Re: Knife or Mace?

Postby Mathy » October 15th, 2017, 7:59 pm

Jake wrote:I know too little about crusaders so I'm not going to vote. Have you considered unarmed? It is usually fast enough to interrupt safety wall, or to remove it. It might also help the after cast delay of devotion, but that needs testing.

I think the advantage of 4x Fabre Card outweighs the benefits of going unarmed.
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Re: Knife or Mace?

Postby Jake » October 16th, 2017, 12:21 am

Why would a monk choose a build that does just enough asura damage to take down an unarmed crusader instead of a fabre carded one?

I think all other types of attacks will most likely be outpotted with or without fabre.
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Re: Knife or Mace?

Postby andis » March 1st, 2018, 8:14 pm

You won't be CP'd too often, trust me. At least if you do not take care of it for yourself!
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